Using this allows the carbon and lead to release easier. It's a 50/50 mix of White Vinegar and Peroxide. Direct Thread – A type of suppressor that mounts directly on to a barrel without the need for a mount or adapter. Now what OSS Suppressors suggest as a cleaning procedure for their Helix-QD cans is quite different and very interesting. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2020 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. The cleaning of a “can” is sometimes a source of hot debate that might only be made hotter if you express favor for one handgun caliber over another, or perhaps one political candidate over another. All-stainless cans can sit in dip for a very long time - it's the optimum solution for getting lead fouling out of a sealed suppressor. Allow the paste to sit for at least ten minutes. Some manufacture recommended that you clean your suppressor every time you clean the muffler on your car. Covering ultrasonic cleaning, wet media tumbling, dry media tumbling, a brush and elbow grease, the dip, and the soda blaster, watch to see which methods keep SilencerCo suppressors squeaky clean and ready for the range. Do you not like the dip because of the health hazards or because of the potential to damage the suppressor? It just takes a rag to wipe them clean,no scrubbing or rubbing required on suppressors that come apart like the Varminter 3.0. I can take my Spectre II & Mack Brothers Varminter 3.0 apart,but both of my Thunder Beast 30P-1's I can't. The heater feature was turned on to 140 degrees for all the testing. Pro Shot Copper Solvent IV works very well on rimfire suppressors. Short baffles clean easier than tall. check out the. Covering ultrasonic cleaning, wet media tumbling, dry media tumbling, a brush and elbow grease, the dip, and the soda blaster, watch to see which methods keep SilencerCo suppressors squeaky clean and ready for the range! So, after half a gazillion rounds, I decided it was time to clean my XCaliber Genesis .22LR can. I rather use sonic most of the year and maybes dip or blast once a year but if cleaning often no need! Silencer manufacturers recommend ways to clean their rimfire and pistol products. Suit up, and mix in equal ratios the ingredients above. I also have a pickle jar of some nasty stuff. Do not use peracetic acid to clean aluminum parts and aluminum baffles. Using cool water, rinse the paste off. CCI Clean-22 High Velocity 22LR. I … Suppressor cleaning is a topic that regularly comes up, particularly when dealing with sealed suppressors that can’t be taken apart. Cleaning suppressors has always been a chore. Gemtech recommends a 50/50 mix of automatic transmission fluid and mineral spirits, soaking for 24 hours, then scrubbing with your choice of cleaner. Still, I'd love to hear any good cleaning suggestions as well. The first time I only let the aluminum stay in the dip 1/2 an hour. Afterwards use tongs or pliers to remove items and place in a bucket of water for rinse. Covering ultrasonic cleaning, wet media tumbling, dry media tumbling, a brush and elbow grease, the dip, and the soda blaster, watch to see which methods keep SilencerCo suppressors squeaky clean and ready for the range. It will eat them. This company suggest coating the suppressor in "anti spatter spray" used in the welding process. I've read good things about Berrymman Chem-Dip carb cleaner. Use a tall cylinder to dip your cans. This is a discussion on Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? I use "the dip". On sealed cans like my Thunder Beast 30-P1's,I just soak the whole thing in the Chem-Dip,and then stand them up on end and drain for … I rather use sonic most of the year and maybes dip or blast once a year but if cleaning often no need! View Full Version : "Dip" suppressor cleaning solution and aluminum parts - PSA. Being as this is the beginning of a long term test, I started out with two clean and dry silencers. Dirty Rimfire; Clean Suppressor – Testing. Hoppes #9, CLP, acetone, paint thinner, soapy water, these options will aid in breaking up/removing the carbon without damaging your suppressor. The resulting mixture can then be used to dissolve the lead that is caked on stainless steel baffles. They no have to be perfect but mine come clean with 6-8 cycles. You’ll see SiCo’s Dewie Vieira and Josh “Beaver” Graham give you the dirty details on various ways to clean your silencer. Cuts the carbon/gook, and safe for aluminum (most carb's are aluminum). Not near as fun as shooting! I used the vinager and hydrogen peroxide "dip". No need for the ultrasonic cleaner though, just submerge the baffles/core in the solution and the lead will bubble and dissolve away in a few hours. I clean all of mine in Berryman's Chem-Dip. I had heard about "The Dip" from others and did a little research and ultimately decided to give it a shot despite the danger involved. Using small, circular motions, apply the paste in a thick layer onto the brass. About 15 minutes and it will remove the carbon from anything. mpallett Elite Industry Professional Posts: 2876 Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:28 pm Location: MA. Rob. Since these both can be rinsed with water (distilled for sealed units), they are economical. Gemtech recommends a 50/50 mix of automatic transmission fluid and mineral spirits, soaking for 24 hours, then scrubbing with your choice of cleaner. I always wondered if SeaFoam would work to clean aluminum suppressors. Since the baffles are anodized 7075 Al (except the blast baffle), the dip is out, so I wanted to try out something else. Dead Air recommends a firearm solvent bath, tumbling in stainless media, ultrasonically cleaned, or The Dip. "Dip" suppressor cleaning solution and aluminum parts - PSA. Save on fluid and keep it nice and tidy. Anyone every try this? Providing NFA Trust Services to Texas Citizens, On the seventh day God rested; Marines filled sandbags, "It is better to be a Warrior in a Garden than a Gardner in a War", Cleaning the Dead Air Mask HD with the DIP, MISC Training Course Announcements & AAR's, Former Vickers Shooting Method Regional Instructors, Pacific Northwest Training and Networking, All Other Longgun Parts, Accessories, & Magazines (EE), Handgun Parts, Accessories & Magazines (EE), If this is your first visit, be sure to An aqueous solution of lead (II) acetate is the byproduct of a 1:1 ratio of hydrogen peroxide and white vinegar (acetic acid) used in the cleaning and maintenance of stainless steel firearm suppressors (silencers) and compensators. However it melted the coat hanger I used to hang the baffles on. Leave for 6-12 hours. It also can't be used on aluminum parts, they will dissolve. Cleaning a rimfire silencer is challenging because of two factors: what the fouling consists of and how it accrues. It is a highly toxic solution that will poison or kill you if handled incorrectly. What you need: Non-permeable gloves. I just soak them in the Chem-Dip for 24-48 hours and wipe off the pieces with a rag,the Thunder Beast cans are stood on end to drain out,and then I blow them out with my compressor. It works great! I have an all-aluminum sealed .22 can from An American Can manufacturer who shall remain nameless. In one of their recently published videos, OSS recommends the following procedure for cleaning their Helix-QD suppressors. Soaking the brake or suppressor in C-4 carbon remover will speed up the time.The cheaper units are junk. With a clean, soft cloth, buff the brass until it is dry. Being as this is the beginning of a long term test, I started out with two clean and dry silencers. All-stainless cans can sit in dip for a very long time - it's the optimum solution for getting lead fouling out of a sealed suppressor. Dip a clean, soft microfiber cloth into the solution. Suppressors are often made from aluminum, stainless steels, titanium, and Inconel. However, it’s important to avoid damaging the suppressor itself and its components, which (unfortunately) is easily achieved when utilizing certain toxic chemicals and abrasive devices.As mentioned in last week’s post, rimfire cans are the main culprits in terms of dirtiness due to the filthy, unja… Obviously the lead acetate is dangerous, last time I titrated the remainder with an Epsom salt solution, which seemed to work. Over on SilencerTalk, the preferred method for cleaning any stainless baffles is what they've termed "The Dip". It just takes a rag to wipe them clean,no scrubbing or rubbing required on suppressors that come apart like the Varminter 3.0. After a few thousand rounds, it began to fill with lead and powder residue, as all .22 cans do. I try my hand at cleaning my suppressor with an Ultrasonic cleaner. Some manufacture recommended that you clean your suppressor every time you clean the muffler on your car. This cleaning method may not be used for aluminum parts. You may have heard misinformation. We used a Hornady Magnum Sonic Cleaner with the Hornady gun cleaning solution. Top. Now, on to the tests! I worked great. It must be capable of heating the solution to about 160-180 degrees F. Use a 50-50 solution of Simple Green. Still, I'd love to hear any good cleaning suggestions as well. I only clean ours about once a month, I first soak them in diesel fuel over night to loosen up the crud, then sonic clean them for three 4-minute cycles with the heater turned on, and then give them a quick rub with 0000 steel wool and done. I have been cleaning all my Guardian cans in the sonic cleaner for about a year now without issues. Cuts the carbon/gook, and safe for aluminum (most carb's are aluminum). So, after half a gazillion rounds, I decided it was time to clean my XCaliber Genesis .22LR can. Comprised of a mixture of carbon, a minimal amount of unburnt powder, and lead, fouling becomes problematic once the lead is evenly mixed with the carbon in vapor form. Using the "dip" is not needed in that case. That is a well known fact of life that everyone that shoots 22 long rifle through a suppressor is familiar with. Federalist shares the lessons he learnt about cleaning .22 suppressors … This is a big mistake for a .22LR suppressor, and here’s why: .22 rimfires are very dirty. The Dead Air Mask He's front cap opened up easily. It must be capable of heating the solution to about 160-180 degrees F. Use a 50-50 solution of Simple Green. Because I've had such a hassle cleaning my Ryder 22A suppressor just using normal cleaning solutions, out of desperation I have used the dip method of cleaning its baffles twice now. There are probably over 5000 rounds through it. They no have to be perfect but mine come clean with 6-8 cycles. CCI Clean-22 High Velocity 22LR. Check eluent and regenerant solution purity and flow. suppressor. “The Dip” – A highly toxic and hazardous mixture that is used to dissolve lead deposits when cleaning suppressors. If the suppressor you buy is stainless steel or titanium you can use a liquid dip (hydrogen peroxide and vinegar) for cleaning, BUT it becomes lead acetate after cleaning and is considered hazmat. Rimfire suppressors get dirty. On sealed cans like my Thunder Beast 30-P1's,I just soak the whole thing in the Chem-Dip,and then stand them up on end and drain for … Lemon Juice Brass Cleaner WARNING. You gotta be careful with the resulting chemical mixture after dropping the baffles in, though, because it creates Lead Acetate. It's used to remove carbon and crap from engines and is safe for aluminum. Save solution in Tupperware , wipe bottom of cleaner with paper towel. within the Modern M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Hi guys, I might have this in the wrong section, but figured Modern M14's do use a suppressor alot.... so? Do NOT dip aluminum or any other non Steel metal. The first suppressor we decided to use was the excellent Stainless Sparrow from SilencerCo. Also, don't use ultrasonic cleaning on aluminum. Soaking the brake or suppressor in C-4 carbon remover will speed up the time.The cheaper units are junk. I left out my normal coat of CLP pre-treatment to avoid any additional variables. WARNING. I don't like keeping them dirty. The two test setups are: Ruger MKIV Integral – TBA Suppressors Sicario Rimfire Suppressors. It's easiest to mix in a 1l Nalgene bottle, but make sure you mark the hell out of the bottle so it doesn't inadvertently get used for water afterward. Rimfire suppressors get dirty. The first suppressor we decided to use was the excellent Stainless Sparrow from SilencerCo. You gotta be careful with the resulting chemical mixture after dropping the baffles in, though, because it creates Lead Acetate. Place only Steel items in the dip. This particular Dead Air Mask HD has been used for over a year on multiple host weapons. When it comes to servicing a silencer, there are several options at your disposal to reach the end goal: a high-performing, fully-functioning can. Now, on to the tests! I prepared a solution of 50% white vinegar and 50% hydrogen peroxide in a mason jar. I just cleaned my Spectre II the first time. You may have heard about the dip. The two test setups are: Ruger MKIV Integral – TBA Suppressors Sicario Know what your suppressor is made of and choose appropriate cleaning aids. Do NOT dip aluminum or any other non Steel metal. Save solution in Tupperware , wipe bottom of cleaner with paper towel. Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? Place only Steel items in the dip. About 15 minutes and it will remove the carbon from anything. It's easiest to mix in a 1l Nalgene bottle, but make sure you mark the hell out of the bottle so it doesn't inadvertently get used for water afterward. That is a well known fact of life that everyone that shoots 22 long rifle through a suppressor is familiar with. Since the baffles are anodized 7075 Al (except the blast baffle), the dip is out, so I wanted to try out something else. Learn from my mistakes. This is a discussion on Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? within the Modern M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Hi guys, I might have this in the wrong section, but figured Modern M14's do use a suppressor alot.... so? This particular Dead Air Mask HD has been used for over a year on multiple host weapons. There was some other "dip" recommended on here a long time ago. The heater feature was turned on to 140 degrees for all the testing. Silencer Shop partnered up with SilencerCo to bring you an exclusive on how to clean your suppressor. I don't like keeping them dirty. Federalist shares the lessons he learnt about cleaning .22 suppressors … This is a big mistake for a .22LR suppressor, and here’s why: .22 rimfires are very dirty. Anodized aluminum can still be attacked. My Spectre is in desperate need of cleaning. Eye Protection Long sleaves ~Gallon bucket Hydrogen Peroxide and Distilled Vinegar. That should be the way of cleaning for most of the “conventional” suppressor designs. Over on SilencerTalk, the preferred method for cleaning any stainless baffles is what they've termed "The Dip". “The Dip” is created by mixing a 50/50 mixture of White Vinegar (Acetic Acid) with Hydrogen Peroxide. Silencer manufacturers recommend ways to clean their rimfire and pistol products. Dirty Rimfire; Clean Suppressor – Testing. It's a 50/50 mix of White Vinegar and Peroxide. I knew that wouldn't get the baffles completely clean, but figured, what the heck. Constructed of Grade 9 Titanium, heat treated 17-4 PH stainless steel, and high strength hard coat anodized 7075-T6 aluminum alloy, I've read good things about Berrymman Chem-Dip carb cleaner. Dead Air recommends a firearm solvent bath, tumbling in stainless media, ultrasonically cleaned, or The Dip. I know, I … There was some other "dip" recommended on here a long time ago. End Cap Strike – When a bullet damages a silencer’s end cap. We used a Hornady Magnum Sonic Cleaner with the Hornady gun cleaning solution. End Cap – The muzzle end of the silencer. Foaming bore cleaner and Pro Shot Copper Solvent IV are similar and benign to aluminum. If noise continues, carry out suppressor cleaning and regeneration procedures per the manufacturer’s recommendations. Short baffles clean easier than tall. level 2 I recently purchased a TPM Firearms "SD" suppressor which is all aluminum except for the rear end cap, and it is user serviceable. After a cursory inspection of the build-up on the baffles, It was obvious that the only way to remove the lead build up was with the peracetic acid solution commonly known as the dip. I left out my normal coat of CLP pre-treatment to avoid any additional variables. Increasing background and baseline noise Check and reduce excess back pressure (ensure that the conductivity cell is operating at recommended back pressure). Sonic cleaner for Suppressor? 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